Frequently Asked Questions
How does the 3-roller work? What is the advantage?
The 3-roller mill has several advantages and few disadvantages. It has greater
output than a 2-roller model running at the same RPM. It provides less husk
damage, which aids in sparging. Also, the 3-roller mill more fully separates
the starch from the husk, while providing superior grain feed, even with
wheat. The 3-roller mill's only disadvantages are the additional power requirements
to drive it, and the tendency for brewhouse efficiency to be higher than
initially expected.
The 3-roller works by pre-crushing the grain in the preliminary gap between
the top two rollers, then opening the husk to expose the crushed kernel
in the secondary gap with the third roller. The top gap is fixed at approximately
.060" which easily pulls in both wheat and barley, softening the starch
without tearing up the husk. There are gaps on either side of the third
roller between it and the top rollers. The one closest to the driven roller
is considered the front of the mill, where most of the grain will be discharged
during milling.
As the grain is pressed between the two main rollers, it covers the bottom
third roller. The drive roller forces the grain out the front gap, separating
the starch from the husk. The grain headed for the tighter rear gap merely
drops onto the bottom roller, which delivers it to the front gap. While
milling, very little grain will be expelled on the rear side of the mill.
It is important to plan for this when designing your base/hopper.
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What is the Warranty on a Monster Mill?
Let me start by saying that I'm not a Lawyer. There is no "legalese"
in the Monster Mill Warranty. Our Warranty is simple...Your satisfaction is
guaranteed or you get your money back. If you buy a mill, and you don't like
it, mail it back to us and we will refund your money. If it doesn't perform
up to your satisfaction, mail it back to us and get a refund. Basically, we
want you to be happy with your mill. The last thing we want is an unsatisfied
or disappointed customer. There is nothing more depressing than paying hard
earned dollars for something, and feeling bad about it.
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What RPMs should I run my mill at?
The best speed to run all of the drill driven mills at is around 150-250 rpms.
Does it have to be exactly 200 rpms? NO WAY. A range of 100-300 is fine, and
if you are willing to have a little more flour, then you can run it a little
faster. I generally tell folks to run it as slowly as your drill will run
it without stalling plus a little more. It usually takes a little more torque
to get the mill going than to keep it going, so you will have to give it some
more power to start the mill, and then slow it down once you are milling.
You should experiment with faster/slower speeds and see what it does to your
grain.
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What should I set the gap to on my mill?
The gap on the 2-roller mills should be set somewhere around .037 - .055".
You will need to assess the crush, and determine if the gap should be smaller
or wider. On the two roller mills you will find a point at which the mill
will stop feeding the grain when you close the gap too tightly. You will run
the drill, but the gap is too small for the grain to fall into, and the drive
roller will just spin and not feed. How you crush your grain is up to you.
It is important that you experiment with different settings and find out what
works best for you. Generally it is not necessary to change the gap frequently.
Most grist will crush just fine using the same gap. Unless you have extremely
dry or moist malt, you shouldn't have to adjust frequently.
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How do I measure the gap?
Use a feeler gauge. Its a tool that you can buy at almost any good autoparts
store. It is a stack of small pieces of metal in different thicknesses. They
are bound together, and marked for thickness. To achieve gaps that are not
the same thickness as a single blade, stack multiple blades together to add
up to the gap you want to measure. The blades should go into the gap between
the rollers with a minimum amount of force, and should not be crushed in the
gap. Try to adjust the gap on both ends of the roller to be the same. There
is some slack for a tapered gap, but this will put unnecessary stress on the
bushings.
On the models with adjustment knobs you can mark an arrow on the knob,
and then turn it to set the gap at different points and mark on the frame
what the gap is at the corresponding knob position. This way you can repeat
different gap settings without even getting out your feeler gauge.
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How can I motorize my mill?
This is a very complicated answer. We recommend you use at least a 1/2 HP motor for our small 1.5" diameter roller mills, and 1 HP for our larger 2" diameter roller mills. Use a capacitor start motor if possible. They have much higher starting
torque and should be able to start milling after the hopper is loaded. If
you don't have a capacitor start motor, you may just have to have the mill
running when you load the hopper. Get the RPMs down as much as possible. To
do this you will need to use as slow a motor as you can get, and put a very
small pulley on it, and put as large a pulley as possible on the mill. The
biggest problem with this approach is that the pulleys end up being very large.
Most AC motors run at the slowest speed of 1725RPMs. This means that you
need to reduce the speed by a minimum factor of 10. So you will need a mill
pulley that is 10 times the diameter of the pulley on the motor to get down
to 172.5 RPMs assuming your motor runs 1725 RPMs. When using pulleys to
drive the mill it may be preferable to widen one flat on your mill's drive
shaft using a metal file. The flats are designed for drill driving, and
will work better with a pulley setscrew if they're wider. This is easily
accompished using a metal file with the drive roller held firmly in your
bench vice.
Pulleys to complete a motorization project are readily available from several
sources including Grainger,
and McMaster Carr.
Look for a small pulley with a diameter of 1.5" or less, and a large
pulley to mount on the mill of at least 10" with 12-14" being
preferable. Worth noting is that usually the pulleys will have different
pitch diameters depending upon the width of belt you use. If you use a narrower
belt, it will ride lower down in the pulley groove, and effectively reduce
the diameter of the pulley.
There was a very
informative article written in BYO a while back, that has all the specific
information you will need to complete your project. We worked directly with
the author to provide accurate information. Gear reduction motors are also
an option but they are usually out of the price range of most home brewers.
If you can find one used for a good price, I have heard of several folks
using them sucessfully, but you must make sure you have enough torque to
drive the mill, or it will stall while grinding.
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What does the mill come with?
The mill comes just as you see it in the pictures on the web site. Mounting
bolts are included, as well as set screws or thumbscrews for the adjustable
models. Our mills have Monster Mill engraved into the side of the aluminum
frame.
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How can I build a base/hopper?
What is the best way to mount my mill?
The simplest base is just a piece of 1/2" or 3/4" thick high density
fiber board at least 8" wide and 18" long with a hole for a funnel
over the gap, and four mounting holes for the mill. Make sure to drill the
mounting holes oversized (at least 5/16") so that there is clearance
to properly align the frames for perfect spinning of the idler rollers.
I personally have found it easiest to mount my mill underneath the base
and cantilever it out over the edge of my brew stand at a height that is
just above my 5 gallon bucket that I mill into. The mill is mounted at one
end of the plywood and the other end is screwed into my brew stand. This
way it hangs out so I can place my grist bucket under it and attach the
drill.
You can also place the base on top of your grist bucket with the mill underneath
and the shaft sticking out of a slot cut into the bucket. You can also top
mount the mill and place another piece of fiber board on top of the mill
with a hole or slot cut in it for the hopper/funnel.
All of our drill drive mills have threaded mounting holes on the top and
bottom of the end frames for whatever mounting configuration you can come
up with. We include plans for a simple base and hopper configuration like
what I use. The drive shaft can turn clockwise, or counter clockwise, as
long as it spins and pulls the grain down into the gap. We always like to
hear how people are using their Monster Mill, and if you have a Brewing
web page we would like to link to it to show other folks how Monster Mills
can be configured.
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Do you sell wholesale to brewshops?
Yes. A Monster Mill at your brew shop can be a great asset to your customers
by providing a consistent crush. Please send e-mail to me at
ffrancis@monsterbrewinghardware.com
and I can send a price list with our terms. We don't drop ship, as we would
rather you have a sample of our mill that your customer can see first hand.
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Do you ship Overseas? How much does it cost?
Yes, we are willing to ship mills anywhere in the world that they are needed
for folks making homebrew. I have found that the United States Post office
provides the least expensive shipping rates for parcels leaving the US. International
shipments go via USPS International Priority mail for a flat rate of $45 to
anywhere that USPS goes. (Canadian customers pay only $30) Our shopping cart
can handle international transactions, all you need to do is use the shopping
cart on this web page, and shipping charges will be added correctly, as long
as you're ordering only one mill. If you would like to order more than one
mill, please send us an e-mail for a shipping quote. Generally we can send
as much as one MM-3 and one MM-2 mill or less for one shipping charge of $45.
Any 2" mill will have to ship by itself, as well as two MM-3 mills. If
you are also purchasing a base/or hopper for your mill, the shipping cost
may increse substantially. Please see the
order info
page for detailed information. If there are any taxes or duties due to your
government, you will be responsible for them. Its usually easy to call your
local customs office, and inquire about duties for imports to your location.
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